Filed by Callaway Golf Company
Pursuant to Rule 425 Under the Securities Act of 1933
And Deemed Filed Pursuant to Rule 14a-12
Under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: Callaway Golf Company
(Subject Company Commission File No.: 001-10962)
This filing relates to the proposed merger involving Callaway Golf Company, a Delaware corporation (Callaway), 51 Steps, Inc., a Delaware corporation (Merger Sub) and Topgolf International, Inc., a Delaware corporation (Topgolf), pursuant to the terms of that certain Agreement and Plan of Merger, dated as of October 27, 2020, by and among Callaway, Merger Sub and Topgolf.
The following is a transcript of the investor conference call hosted on October 27, 2020, discussing the potential transaction between Callaway and Topgolf. An audio replay of this conference call was made available on Callaways Investor Relations website (https://ir.callawaygolf.com/news-and-events/presentations) on October 27, 2020.
OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Brian P. Lynch Callaway Golf Company - Executive VP & CFO
Dolf Berle Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Oliver G. Brewer Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Patrick Burke Callaway Golf Company - VP of Finance & IR
William Davenport Topgolf International, Inc. - CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Alexander Rocco Maroccia Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG, Research Division - Analyst
Brett Richard Andress KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - Associate VP
Casey Jay Alexander Compass Point Research & Trading, LLC, Research Division - Senior VP & Research Analyst
Daniel Robert Imbro Stephens Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst
George Arthur Kelly ROTH Capital Partners, LLC, Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst
John David Kernan Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst
Joseph Nicholas Altobello Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - MD & Senior Analyst
Michael Arlington Swartz Truist Securities, Inc., Research Division - Senior Analyst
Susan Kay Anderson B. Riley Securities, Inc., Research Division - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Callaway Golf and Topgolf Merger Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Patrick Burke, Head of Callaway Golf Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Patrick Burke - Callaway Golf Company - VP of Finance & IR
Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our call to discuss the combination of Callaway and Topgolf. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and the press release and slide presentation regarding todays news are available on the IR section of the Callaway website.
Before we get started, Id like to take this opportunity to remind you that our remarks today will include forward-looking statements reflecting managements current forecast of certain aspects of Callaways future. Unless otherwise noted, financial numbers discussed on todays call are based on U.S. generally accepted accounting principles. In the few instances where we report non-GAAP measures, we reconciled the non-GAAP measures to the corresponding GAAP measures at the back of the presentation in accordance with Regulation G.
Joining me on todays call from Callaway are Chip Brewer, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Brian Lynch, our Chief Financial Officer. We are also pleased to have several members of the Topgolf management team joining us, including Chief Executive Officer, Dolf Berle; and Chief Financial Officer, William Davenport.
With that, I would like to introduce Chip Brewer.
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OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Thank you, Patrick. Today is an exciting day for the future of our 2 companies and the sport of golf. The agreement reach between Callaway and Topgolf represents a transformative opportunity to create an unrivaled global golf and entertainment leader. Callaway has agreed to acquire the remaining 86% of Topgolf shares that we dont already own in exchange for approximately 90 million shares of Callaway Golf Company.
Upon deal close, Callaway shareholders will own approximately 51.5% of the shares of the combined company, while Topgolf shareholders will own 48.5%. Notably, Topgolfs largest shareholders, including Providence Equity Partners, WestRiver Group and Dundon Capital Partners have expressed support for the transaction and will be significant shareholders of the combined company. As such, representatives from each group, 3 in total, will join the Callaway Board of Directors: John Lundgren, current Chairman of Callaways Board of Directors will remain as Chairman of the combined company. Im pleased to say that Erik Anderson, Topgolfs Executive Chairman will join the Board and will serve as our Vice Chairman. And Im fortunate to lead the combined company as its CEO. We expect the transaction to close in early 2021.
Turning to Slide 4. Let me start here by saying that these 2 companies just make a tremendous amount of sense together. It creates a unique new entity that would be difficult, if not impossible, to replicate. An entity that increases the competitive advantages and growth prospects of both companies. These are 2 highly complementary businesses that are well positioned in front of attractive trends in todays new normal as well as trends that are expected to continue post-COVID. As youll hear throughout todays call, consumer interest continues to accelerate in golf, and outdoor socially distanced activities remain highly appealing. Topgolf will continue to be a beneficiary of these trends, where same venue sales have already come back to 80% to 85% of 2019 sales.
With Topgolf, we see a company with multiple high-growth opportunities still in its early years of potential that can be supported and accelerated with Callaway. We see compelling addressable market opportunities across business lines with proven economics, a flywheel-like effect in the $80 billion golf market and exciting potential for innovation to grow revenue across digital connected networks. We will have massive reach across channels around the world to highly similar consumer markets in golf and outside of belts. Couple this reach with a portfolio of coveted brands with momentum, and theres incredible opportunity to innovate and create enhanced value on a shared platform.
Topgolf touches 90 million consumers a year across its brands. 23 million people visited their venues in 2019 alone, with approximately 49% of those identifying as golfers. To get a feel for the significance of this, the National Golf Foundation estimates there are 24 million total golfers in the U.S. Topgolf will be reaching more U.S. consumers than this by 2022, if not in 2021.
For Callaway Golf shareholders, the transaction will more than double our growth expectations, while also creating a competitive advantage via access to golfers vulnerabilities. Together, we will be a focused high-growth platform with more than ample liquidity and cash flow to capture our potential.
Slide 5. Slide 5 here captures the incredible potential we see in these businesses. This combination will enable us to realize growth levels that neither business could achieve on its own. We expect to deliver approximately 10% annual revenue growth and adjusted EBITDA growth in the mid- to high teens. Long term, we have defined a clear line of sight to more than $1 billion of adjusted EBITDAS by the end of this decade.
Let me talk through our 2022 adjusted EBITDAS estimate of $360 million. Lets start with the fact that although recent trends have been very good for our businesses, we believe its prudent to consider 2022 as our first full year of normalized post-COVID impacted operations. Now let us build from the last pre-COVID year 2019 to 2022. As you can see, the combined 2019 adjusted EBITDAS was $270 million, with approximately $210 million coming from Callaway Golf, and approximately $60 million coming from Topgolf.
Looking forward now, after a challenging spring in 2020, the Callaway Golf business and the game of golf itself is now experiencing unprecedented growth. With this tailwind, we believe that the long-term growth prospects of golf are likely higher today than they were pre-COVID. While were not in a position to quantify the effect of this tailwind, we are confident in the direction and the trend. Couple this with our track record of growing faster than the market and an apparel business recovering faster than anticipated, and we think its clearly reasonable to assume growth at Callaway as compared to 2019.
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OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
For Topgolf, we start with a plan to add more than 20 venues from the end of 2019 through to the end of 2022. Then we expect that by 2022, all venues should be performing at an average unit level roughly consistent with the 2019 benchmark. With this, the venue additions alone would add approximately $100 million in adjusted EBITDAS. In addition, the Toptracer Range business will have achieved significant growth by 2022, and along with some incremental contribution from the media and international businesses. The sum of this is easily $360 million, with some cushion to spare. We have looked at this carefully and are confident in these estimates. Weve also provided more detail on this in our appendix, which I encourage you to review.
Turning to Slide 6. And you can see the many opportunities that we have already identified as complementary growth drivers for the business. There is no question these businesses create a highly compelling position in golf, but I want to emphasize that the complementary fit is across the entire portfolio, Golf Plus, if you will. Together, we have a combination of brands, channels in a base of millions of consumers that will prove a powerful formula for our success. This is a set of consumers too that we think share highly single attributes that align with every brand in our portfolio.
As Ive said already, these businesses just make sense together. Weve already identified a number of areas where we can accelerate growth through collaboration. One of the most exciting examples has to be with Toptracer Range, where our golf partnerships all around the world can come together with Topgolfs compelling technology. We also believe we can use Callaway Golf resources to drive Topgolf venue utilization, and the Topgolfs consumer reach will significantly benefit Callaway Golf.
Turning to Slide 7. Now let me turn to the golf opportunity a bit more specifically. This company will have reach that will extend across the entire worldwide game of golf, from elite touring professionals to new and aspiring entrants to the game. This creates for Callaway Golf a competitive advantage and access to golfers vulnerabilities, a competitive advantage that we believe we can clearly monetize. Our brands across the spectrum are incredibly strong positioned and have a direct overlap with existing golfers.
At Callaway, we have the #1 driver in putter on tour and boasts the #1 brand rating with avid golfers, a position weve held since 2017. With Topgolf, golfers experience our brands off the course, from sharpening their game at Toptracer Ranges or experiencing the game for the first time at a venue. There is also the compelling potential for a flywheel-like effect across our businesses, an effect that grows new participants, along with increasing our relationship with them. Topgolf venues had an estimated 23 million visitors or guests in 2019. Approximately 49% of their guests are golfers, which obviously overlaps directly with Callaways core consumer. Equally exciting is the fact that of the 51% of guests identifying as non-golfers, 3/4 of them express interest in playing on-course golf after visiting. That is a really compelling connection between Topgolf experiences and creating new golfers. Add to this, the Toptracer Range is revolutionizing the driving range, where range owners report significant increases in sales following the technology installation, and you can see how connectivity from aspiring entrants to occasional participants leading to avid amateurs, hence, the flywheel of growth, supporting further growth, while all along providing a competitive advantage to the combined entity.
Turning to Slide 8. For those who may not be as familiar with the Callaway business, Ill spend a few minutes here touching on what we think defines our company and our success. Callaway is the global leader in the premium golf equipment market, with a strong position in the complementary and fast-growing active lifestyle soft goods segment. We have delivered growth through our proven ability in brand building, manufacturing, distribution and marketing. This drives value to our shareholders with 54% 3-year growth in operating profit, and 187% 5-year total shareholder return. A good snapshot of how we position the business for success would be our recent investments to build out our e-commerce and supply chain capabilities, including the development of our new integrated distribution system. These investments have been critical in making sure our brands are able to meet customer expectations. As a result, weve seen strong growth in e-commerce sales, with Q3 apparel segment e-commerce sales growth of 108%.
Focused investments have propelled us to become the #1 ranked club company and the #2 ranked ball company, and created 7 consecutive years of growth above the overall golf market.
Now Id like to turn it over to Dolf, who will share a bit more on the Topgolf business and its exciting growth story.
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OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Thank you, Chip. Im very happy to be speaking with all of you today and to share more about Topgolf and why we are so excited for this combination with Callaway. But first, let me start off by saying how gratifying it is to fulfill my mission of bringing Topgolf into public company status as we joined the Callaway family of companies. I feel very privileged to have led the team that made Topgolf a truly global sports entertainment leader. Im confident that under Callaway ownership, the Topgolf business lines will prosper and benefit from the numerous synergies that the combined company will realize. I see nothing but continued success for the Callaway and Topgolf teams together. My sole focus right now is to lead the team through the successful close of this combination and set these 2 teams up for success going forward. Looking ahead, though, Ive decided my plan will be to pursue other leadership opportunities outside of Topgolf sometime after close.
Here on Slide 9, you can find an overview of our business. We think about Topgolf Entertainment Group in 3 brand segments. The first is our popular venues. This is what most people know about Topgolf. Theyre cutting-edge entertainment facilities that have proven unit economics with long-term growth potential. The second is Toptracer Range. I would argue that this is the hidden gem within our business. Golfers are familiar with this technology from watching televised professional golf tournaments, but it is also a technology that we are using to transform driving ranges around the world. It is a capital-light, high-margin business model, and it is growing in the triple digits. The third segment is our media business. In many ways, this is the special sauce. With our digitally connected platforms and gaming expertise, we create experiences online and across our platform that present innovative avenues for sponsorship and other digital offerings reaching a wide audience.
Each of these segments are proven early-stage businesses with tremendous runway for growth. Topgolf generated $1.1 billion in revenue in 2019, and has achieved growth at a 30% compound annual rate since 2017.
Moving to Slide 10. Our venues business is the original Topgolf concept in a format that has been core to our brand growth. Our mission at Topgolfis to make golf accessible to people of all ages, demographics and skill levels. This is a whole new way to experience the game and have fun with family, friends or coworkers. Our venues are a social destination for all, with immersive gameplay, amplified technology and high-quality food and beverages, we create a memorable experience for our visitors. Each year, the millions of visitors to our venues not only are treated to a memorable experience, but they are also introduced to our brand, our technology platform and the community we create.
As we turn to Slide 11, you can get a sense of the growth to date of the venues in the United States. We have 58 operating venues today in the U.S. Weve been successful in all regions and climates, north, south, east and west. We have also developed different size venues, which we rightsized for different sizes of cities. The format of our venues has shifted in recent years as weve expanded our addressable market opportunity by creating medium and small venue size formats. These smaller formats fit a broader range of demographic areas and maintain attractive unit-level economics. Internationally, were still in the very early stages. We have 3 owned venues and 2 franchised venues, and we expect multi-venue franchisees will be our primary path to international expansion.
While the outset of the pandemic forced the temporary closure of many Topgolf venues, we are fortunate that we have since reopened all of our locations across the network. These are outdoor venues where we have installed dividers between bays and can maintain social distancing. The result were seeing is a strong return to guest traffic in our venues with same venue sales recently between 80% to 85% of 2019 levels.
Looking at Slide 12 now, we break down the powerful economics of the venue business. We expect venues to generate, on average, $17 million in revenue per year, with an average venue level adjusted EBITDAS of $5 million per year. Weve had great success in financing underlying land costs, and about 75% of the average venue construction costs via our REIT partners. Venues cost between $10 million to $40 million to build, depending on the size and the location. Via this financing approach, we see really attractive cash-on-cash returns of about 50%.
Turning now to Slide 13. With these attractive unit level economics, we see ourselves still very much in the very early stages of growth. With a target of 200 total venues in the U.S., we see more than 10 years of potential growth opportunity ahead of us just domestically. As of today, we have a very well-developed pipeline with 33 venues either under construction, contracted or under a letter of intent.
As I mentioned earlier, were just in the beginning stages of our international expansion, with an identified opportunity of 250 venues abroad, we are just 2% into that addressable market. We have a franchise model to capture this opportunity with an expectation that each franchise contributes about $1.1 million in revenue per year. With a demonstrated ability to open and operate international venues, including Monterrey, Mexico, the
U.K. and shortly in Dubai, we feel confident about our pursuit of international growth. As a whole, we have an identified path for this business to create more than $900 million in venue-level adjusted EBITDAS.
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Now on Slide 14. We provide an overview on our groundbreaking Toptracer Range business. This business is built on our leading ball-tracing technology, which is best known for transforming televised golf. But what most people dont realize is that it is changing how golfers experience the driving range and hone their game. Through connected cameras, we put your ball flight and all your shot stats on a screen, in the Bay when agolfer hits from within a roof structure, or onto your phone with a mobile app, if you are in an outdoor bay hitting off grass. This highly engaging experience for golfers has led to rapid worldwide Toptracer growth in just a few years. For context, we are seeing revenue growth in the past 3years in this business north of 200%.
Toptracer has created potential for us to create new innovative experiences for consumers. This year, we are using our gaming expertise to create a 9-shot challenge. Golfers around the world competed in a global tournament all connected by Toptracer ranges. In this first-ever rollout, we saw 80% participation from our range partners across 19 countries. With our growing network of Toptracer-enabled ranges, we are creating a digital infrastructure, through which we can push content to golfers across the globe. With Callaways leading position across golf, we see ample opportunityto grow this business and create new connected experiences that could encompass games, lessons, tournaments, fan events and more.
On Slide 15, Toptracer Range is a capital-light, high-margin model that will serve as a strong complement to our venue business over the long term. In 2020 alone, weve seen more than 3,500 installs as independent range owners have sought to benefit from the revenue upside that this technology presents. Many of our licensees have reported 25% to 60% revenue increases, which speaks to the shared opportunity in this technology. On a unit level, we see each bay generating about $2,000 per year, with an adjusted EBITDAS of about $1,500 per year per bay. We are on pace to deliver about 8,000 bays per year going forward with typical contracts with ranges running about 3 to 5 years. As a result, we see a clear path to generating $200 million in adjusted cash EBITDAS at the unit level.
As we turn to Slide 16, we outlined Topgolfs media platform. As I hope youve heard so far, proprietary in-house gaming technology is central to our ability to deliver for our consumers across all brand segments. World Golf Tour, a leading mobile golf game, with 28 million members as of 2019, is another way we use our capabilities in game technology to create a really compelling position in the growing e-sports field. More importantly, perhaps is this gaming technology also creates innovative sponsorship and consumer engagement opportunities throughout our community of players, competing across our interconnected digital and in-person platforms. The recently announced partnership between Angry Birds and Topgolf is just one example of how wed bring this to life. Looking ahead, we see incredible opportunity to deliver instruction, fitness and lifestyle content and experiences across our platform.
On Slide 17, collectively, our businesses have created strong momentum and proven financial results, including 30% annual revenue growth from 2017 to 2019. As you can see, weve also been able to achieve meaningful adjusted EBITDAS growth in the past 3 years, despite 2019 adjusted EBITDAS impacted a bit by growth infrastructure investment to achieve long-term earnings potential as well as a change in the lease accounting standard that negatively affected adjusted EBITDAS in 2019 versus prior years.
Turning to Slide 18. I want to speak to how these exciting high-growth businesses are proving resilient through the challenges presented by the global pandemic. Our teams have really stepped up during this difficult period to adapt our ways of working and we were able to safely open 100% of our U.S. venues as of early September. What were seeing is very encouraging. Our businesses are fundamentally outdoor-oriented experiences, where we can maintain social distancing. As consumers figure out what works best for them, were pleased to see that Topgolf is an experience that makes our customers feel safe. We have seen rapid return of our guests to our venue business, with Q3 same venue sales at 76% of 2019, recently moving up to 80% to 85%. We recognize that the pandemic is still a major factor for our business, especially as trends shift around the country. However, were encouraged by the structural advantages of our business as an outdoor, socially distanced space. We think this creates meaningful resilience in the months ahead. Just this past week, we again realized nearly 85% same venue sales versus prior year.
And with that, now Ill turn it over to Brian to expand on how Callaway is moving through this year.
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OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
Brian P. Lynch - Callaway Golf Company - Executive VP & CFO
Thank you, Dolf. You can see by the strong preliminary results that we are reporting today. Callaway is realizing significant growth in equipment sales, bolstered by recent outperformance in the second half of the year. More people are playing golf. Beginners are starting out and occasional participants are returning in droves. This is showing up in the numbers, with Golf Datatech recently reporting Q3 retail golf equipment sales, up 42% year-over-year, a new record quarter for that industry. U.S. rounds played in September were up 25%, and new and returning golfers in Q2 were also up 20%. Remember, our apparel business is also directly focused on outdoor lifestyles, and were seeing a consumer preference for outdoor activity across our portfolio as seen in the incredible e-commerce growth weve realized in our apparel business.
Turning to Slide 19 now. As you saw in the press release, we have provided estimated results for the third quarter, where the uplift from equipment sales has positioned Callaway to deliver record quarterly performance, exceeding our year-over-year results across key metrics. Our field inventories are near historic lows, and our soft goods business is recovering above expectations thanks to outperformance in e-commerce. As a result, we estimate net sales of $476 million, non-GAAP EPS of $0.60 and adjusted EBITDAS of $87 million.
As we turn to Slide 20, I would like to spend a few moments highlighting Callaways strong financial framework and comfortable liquidity position. At the close of the third quarter, the company had more than $630 million of cash and availability under our credit facilities, which is nearly $300 million higher than the same period in 2019. This excess capital provides ample liquidity. Together, Callaways continued strong cash generation and ample liquidity will allow us to fund Topgolfs growth. Ill note that the timing works well for Callaway as we are substantially through our recent infrastructure investments in our business. Well be able to achieve these investments while simultaneously paying down debt, bringing our leverage to pre-Topgolf acquisition levels within 2 years. This is a combined company where we will have a strong ability to finance growth initiatives, while efficiently paying down debt putting us on a path to deliver on our goals.
Chip, back over to you.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Thanks, Brian. Together with Topgolf, we will have the brands and consumer reach to create an unrivaled golf business that is well positioned for long-term growth. We have a clear line of sight to generate more than $1 billion of adjusted EBITDAS by the end of this decade. We will be the leader across the entire golf spectrum, from elite touring professionals to new and aspiring entrants to the game. Topgolf is a company that we know well. We first invested in 2006, and the companies have maintained a strong partnership since. I personally have been on the Board of Topgolfsince 2012.
Our significant customer overlap provides a distinct advantage as we seek to expand relationships and experiences with consumers. With Callaways strong financial platform, we can invest for growth and accelerate the exciting potential for the Topgolf brand, both here in the U.S. and internationally. For Callaway Golf shareholders, the transaction will more than double our growth expectations, while also creating a long-term competitive advantage via access to golfers vulnerabilities. Together, we will be a focused high-growth platform, with more than ample liquidity and cash flow to capture our potential. We have tremendous respect to the Topgolf brand that Dolf and his team have built and are grateful that he has agreed to continue to lead the company through transaction close. We could not be more excited to come together with such an iconic and well-regardedbrand, and we cant wait to see what our 2 companies can accomplish together.
With that, Id like to open the call for questions.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
Operator
(Operator Instructions). And our first question will come from Brett Andress of KeyBanc Capital.
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Brett Richard Andress - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - Associate VP
So encouraging to see same venue performance in that 80% to 85% of 2019 range. But I guess what does the walk up consumer business mix look like today versus maybe the corporate event business? And then also, is that 80 the 80% to 85% numbers of revenue number, I guess, what does that look like on EBITDAS as well?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Brett, the walk-in is recovering very quickly and is now close to last years levels. And the corporate business is obviously more impacted, although were also seeing some recovery. Dolf, would you like to add any color to any of that?
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Sure, Chip. Well, I think its a good question, and weve had a number of venues that have actually been outperforming previous year when it comes to the walk-in. And as you said, its quite strong. 29% of the business historically has been the events business, and that is a combination of both corporate events and also social events, which are family-type events. And the family events are holding up quite nicely, but the corporate events are down. And this is fairly typical when you have a down cycle such as were having today. Ive experienced it several times over the course of the last 20 years in businesses that have events, and corporate events have always come back, whether it was the dot-com boom or the last recession. But I think that will take a little bit of time. And so the 80% to 85% is, in fact, a combination. But by virtue of that combination, were trending meaningfully higher than that on the walk-in business. And the events business is still a little bit less than half what it was previously.
Brett Richard Andress - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - Associate VP
And then is the EBITDAS 80% to 85% as well?
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Some venues are running that high. However, theres a fair amount of leverage that comes with each sales dollar once you get up above a certain threshold. So whats working in our favor at the moment is that we did take a number of measures to improve margins earlier this year at the unit level, and also as it related to corporate overhead. And so were seeing some good early results in both cost of goods sold as well as labor from an efficiency standpoint. But from an overall EBITDAS standpoint, were still climbing our way back to an overall positive. And we were, in fact, positive in Q3.
Brett Richard Andress - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - Associate VP
Got it. Okay. And then my follow-up, Chip, when you and the Board decided to go down this path, I guess, why did you think that now was the right time? And did you take into account, if there was another COVID shutdown, a potential recession, I mean, what did you take that in accounts you were deciding to kind of go forward here?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Yes, Brett, good questions, both. And Ill take them in turn. So first of all, clearly, the events of this year presented us with a unique opportunity. And were thrilled that both Boards saw each other as the right partner at this time. From the Callaway Golf perspective, this is something wevethought about for a long time. Weve been investors in this business since 2006, Ive been on the Board since 2012. And since the time Ive been with the company, there have been various discussions and thoughts about the merits and strong logic behind some sort of a merger. But never was able to be consummated or fully realized. We have a deep insider knowledge of this business and strong relationships, which obviously is very
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OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
favorable from a combination and a due diligence and analysis position. We probably, outside of the team, inside of Topgolf, have the most unique ability to make good evaluations and judgments on that. And obviously, its benefiting right now by some great trends the surge in golf, which is completely had our business recover, and were in a position of announcing a record quarter with an extremely strong capital position. The desirability of open air, outdoor social activities, such as Topgolf, and how strong they are performing and how well theyre positioned to go forward our knowledge of that. Brett, you have to really think through how well positioned Topgolf is in this COVID environment. Its an outdoor venue where they actually have barriers in between the base to provide further safety and security, and you have a group of only up to 6 people, can be completely socially distance from everybody else in an outdoor environment. Its, quite frankly, a perfect fit, and youre seeing it in the results. 77% of the customers that are surveyed at Topgolf indicate that its going to have the same or a bigger role in their lives post-pandemic. And so theres a lot of reasons why this is an excellent time. And but clearly, it does have some risk, and we have to be sensitive to that and model those.
And so let me answer the second part of your question then. We clearly were very attentive to the risk side of this deal, and we planned conservatively, and we do expect some more volatility through 2021. Anybodys ability to forecast that is challenged in todays era. But what we are comforted by is that our model and plan can absorb any reasonable volatility without either requiring a meaningful change in plans or forecast or requiring any outside capital. For instance, if there was volatility, such as increased localized restrictions, some short shutdowns, other activities that impacted venue sales or local conditions, that would be impacted within the model and the estimates that were providing you without creating any change in our business plan, our capital needs, and it would not impact the anticipated strong returns to the Callaway Golf shareholders.
Paying that even further now. Lets look at the worst, worst-case scenario, which is unfortunately something that we all have to have a plan for, and thats a full shutdown like we experienced earlier this year. All venues in Callaway Golf, followed by a significant recession, we would have the capital to get through that. We would then have to modify the plans for spending, both capital and OpEx, but we can easily do that and have a plan for that, where we can reduce our spend significantly. We have various scenarios to be able to take out $100 million, $150 million, $200 million, or it may be more from the plan. This would impact the forecast were providing today, and those would need to be updated. But the IRR of the deal would still be meaningfully above our weighted average cost of capital, and this would still be a positive deal for the Callaway Golf shareholders.
Operator
Our next question will come from Joe Altobello of Raymond James.
Joseph Nicholas Altobello - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - MD & Senior Analyst
Congratulations. I just wanted to follow up on Bretts question. I think, Chip, 9 months ago, you guys were looking to monetize the stake. And today, youre buying the rest of it. So Im curious what changed in your mind over the previous, call it, 9 months or so, to make you move in the opposite direction?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Joe, to be 100% honest, opportunity. As mentioned, this is something that we have considered for as long as Ive been on the Board of Callaway Golf. Weve been a fan of this business, and I think the trends are arguably even more favorable for both of these businesses now than they were a year ago or 9 months ago. I think that the long-term prospects of both businesses are improved, and that theyre even stronger together. 9 months ago, we didnt see that this would even be a glimmer of hope in our eye, but it has developed to the point where weve had what I think is a transformational opportunity, and we have delighted that both partners have decided to proceed down this path.
Joseph Nicholas Altobello - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - MD & Senior Analyst
Thats helpful, Chip. And secondly to follow up, I think you guys mentioned you expect to get back to a 3.6x leverage ratio by the end of 22. Whats the projected leverage ratio at closing?
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Brian P. Lynch - Callaway Golf Company - Executive VP & CFO
Well, projecting leverage ratios during the pandemic is very challenging because the impact of EBITDAS from both of them. So its not a really meaningful number. Thats why were focused on the 2022, really when we get back to normal levels of operations.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Yes. I think that, Joe, the right way to think about this would be how much capital we have, while we have the EBITDAS as being so challenged by what was clearly now in the rearview mirror. And then going forward, looking at that normalized leverage ratio.
Operator
Our next question will come from Daniel Imbro of Stephens.
Daniel Robert Imbro - Stephens Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst
Chip, I wanted to circle back to a comment you just made. The industry is improving, but when we think about that 2022 $360 million EBITDAS outlook, the golf industry is growing, youre taking share, obviously, some of the inefficiencies from recent years in the golf side and the apparel side should be gone. I think you laid out $100 million of EBITDAS from new Topgolf facilities. Maybe just help me walk through that bridge again to get to $360 million? And maybe what are some of the offsets as to why the golf business shouldnt be more profitable than 2019 when we build up that bridge?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Daniel, dont misunderstand me. I wasnt saying that, that was the max. It wasnt aspirational. Were giving you a number that were confident in. And so I think that is my point was that its totally reasonable to assume that the golf the Callaway Golf business will have a higher EBITDAS in 2022 than it had in 2019. And then the bridge, as mentioned on the Topgolf EBITDAS was to give you confidence in the $360 million, which I think I must have accomplished.
Daniel Robert Imbro - Stephens Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst
Noted. I appreciate it. And then maybe to follow-up, can you talk about the ability to drive revenue synergies? I think there was a slide or 2 about it. But could we see Callaway clubs at Topgolf facilities? Could these become like opportunities to fit new golfers into your equipment? And is there any other opportunity on the apparel side here now that you build up golf line. Can you help us just think about what that opportunity could mean for equipment and apparel from a synergy standpoint?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Absolutely. Because the synergies here are just, in my opinion, wildly compelling and clear. These businesses fit very well together. And by combining both businesses, well hear, it has a clear competitive advantage just because theyve merged together. When you look at the Callaway side, our ability to promote and sell product through the consumer reach and the venue-based business of Topgolf is quite compelling. Just starting on the numbers, theres 24 million golfers in the U.S. Topgolf in 2019 had 23 million people visit its venues. And by 21 or 22, it will probably be in that 30 million range. And half of those, or 49% to be precise, identify as golfers. So the overlap there and the ability to promote and potentially sell either directly or via our wholesale partners product, to those consumers through the venues and through Toptracer Range is quite tangible. You can imagine fitting centers. You can imagine the ability to display. You can imagine events that would all be highly accretive to the market share and
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to the exposure of the Callaway Golf product and particularly interesting to the consumer in that venue. And that same thing will happen on the soft goods side. TravisMathew is already a supplier of product into Topgolf. And Im just guessing that their market share might go up a little bit.
Theres also a flywheel effect of these whole thing with the fact that Topgolf is going to be the greatest source of new golfers into the market of any potential source if its not now already, it will be shortly. And thats just that same math that we walked through a minute ago. With half of the golf visitors to Topgolf not being golfers. But theyre clearly expressing the interest in being golfers. And we will have greater access to them as well, from CRM systems, et cetera. And then down the road, the ability to look at what is currently white space, but digital networks that we can tie into the Toptracer Range business, and therefore, promote content and product to these avid golfers that are visiting Toptracer Range on the digitally connected range business. It gets quite exciting when you put these 2 business together. And thats simply talking about it from the Callaway point of view. The synergies are equally compelling on the Topgolf side.
Daniel Robert Imbro - Stephens Inc., Research Division - Research Analyst
Got it. And then just to tie those 2 together, and theres no synergies included in your long-term outlook, just to clarify?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
No. Because of our conservative nature and the strength of this deal, the deal did not need it. It has highly appealing returns without the need to bake in the synergies. These synergies, I believe, strongly in. I believe, theyre really compelling. But theyre difficult to be precise in estimates right now. And so correct, they are not in the projections. They would be either upside or offsets to other challenges that could develop.
Operator
Our next question comes from Mike Schwartz of Truist Securities.
Michael Arlington Swartz - Truist Securities, Inc., Research Division - Senior Analyst
I wanted to just follow-up on the question on revenue synergies, or to the Toptracer Range side of the business. Chip, is there any or Dolf, is there any color on how many of the existing Toptracer Range locations are also Callaway retail partners?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
The Ill take it, Dolf, and then you can jump in. But I dont have specifics on how many are Callaway retail partners, but in generality, all of the Toptracer Range customers are our customers. And we have unrivaled reach into those additives, quite frankly, much larger scale and reach than Topgolf is able to put into play right now. So one of the clear synergies that were going to be able to deliver is were going to be able to accelerate the growth of the Toptracer Range business in that penetration. And thats a highly exciting business that, not only has got very compelling economics as it currently exists, but it creates even more white space when you start thinking about these digitally connected networks and all the things that you can do with those going forward. So were wildly excited about that, and thats a business that I think a lot of people dont even know Topgolf has, but its now achieving just nascent scale and kind of almost on a breakaway ramp now and a clear synergy. Dolf, do you want to add any color to any of that?
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Sure. Well, today, we have roughly 7,500 bays across 29 countries. And we have raving fans in terms of the driving ranges that are enjoying such great economics once they install the technology. Next year, we think that we can double the size of the business and add another 8,000 base. And a limiting factor for us has simply been sales reach, as Chip described. And so weve worked very hard under the leadership of Ben Sharpe,
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whos the President of our Toptracer Range business, to build the tremendous momentum that we have today. But the very idea that we could have a much more substantial knowledgeable sales force, that is resident already in Callaway, who have good relationships with driving ranges literally across the world, is something that unlocks a huge amount of potential. So we are very fired up about the potential that Callaway can bring to our opportunity with Toptracer.
Michael Arlington Swartz - Truist Securities, Inc., Research Division - Senior Analyst
Thats great color. And then, Chip, just a clarification on your growth outlook. I think you said growth outlook, longer term, is 10% and that double what you could have done a long time, assuming that means 5% is what you kind of feel the golf business can do. That seems pretty similar to your outlook, generally speaking, before COVID. But youve also had youve obviously had a lot of positive commentary on kind of the pre or the post-COVID trends. So am I thinking about that right? Or is that 5% more of a starting point for the equipment business?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Well, the equipment business pre-COVID was a the industry itself was a 1% to 2% growth in this business. We continually outperform that business. But as you become the dominant share that in golf specific would become harder and harder. I believe we would be able to continue to outperform the market, but the market itself now I believe golf will now grow faster without a doubt. I cant quantify that for you right now. Its surging incredibly strongly right now. And right now, we dont see an end sight to that. But that will an end to that will happen. But the tailwinds will be stronger for us, and the growth rate of the golf industry will be stronger. Our software and apparel segment grows much faster than the golf business, so our blended would be a little higher than that. Its the EBITDAS that I was really focused on where Im looking at the profitability intotal. And the EBITDAS growth that were talking about in the mid- to high teens is more than double what would be expected by the Callaway Golf business alone, and a clear benefit of the merger, plus a stronger competitive advantage in the marketplace.
Operator
Our next question will come from John Kernan of Cowen.
John David Kernan - Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst
Yes. Excellent. And congrats to everybody on the Callaway and Topgolf team, obviously, a very exciting day for both of you. A lot of work put into all this. So maybe we could go back to the bridge between fiscal 19 and fiscal 22, and the margin profile of the business. It looks like theres quite a bit of gross margin expansion, a little bit of step-up in the OpEx line. Im just maybe you could walk us through some of the assumptions on the margin profile of the business as we go into fiscal 22? Topgolf obviously has a superior gross margin. Just curious what the outlook is for the margin the gross margin and OpEx line for that business as we head into fiscal 22?
Brian P. Lynch - Callaway Golf Company - Executive VP & CFO
Sure. As you correctly noted, John, that they have a very high-margin profile. For the gross margin, it wouldnt even, I dont think, report this if they were just a stand-alone company. Its just a small piece of their business. Its largely food and beverage that they have gross margin in. And as you can see, theyre in the high mid- to high 80%. A lot of their operating expense is where their costs come in, and Id say 20% probably approaching 30% is just labor in all the venues. And so I think thats the trend you see once you blend it in with ours, you see our gross margin going up. William, is there anything youd like to add to that?
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William Davenport - Topgolf International, Inc. - CFO
No, no. I mean I think as we mentioned, we will we expect to return to our margin levels in 2022 that we achieved in 2019. Its just our mix of more growth balances against the investments weve made on the corporate overhead side that will improve our margin going forward as well.
Operator
Our next question will come from Susan Anderson of B. Riley.
Susan Kay Anderson - B. Riley Securities, Inc., Research Division - Analyst
Congratulations on the deal. I was curious, can you talk about how much CapEx will be needed annually for Topgolf? And will this be funded by free cash flow?
Brian P. Lynch - Callaway Golf Company - Executive VP & CFO
Susan, this is Brian. They will become self-funding in 2024, and were estimating between basically 2021, 22, 23, well have to invest approximately $325 million over that time. The good news is, we do not need to raise any capital for that. We already have that. At the end of September 30, we had over $630 million in available liquidity, and Topgolf had $200 million in cash. So it will be self-funded internally during that period. A good significant portion of that, though, is discretionary. So and I know some people wonder about COVID and the amount of capital involved, but we could pull back on that if we needed to. But if we want but under this plan, we would invest about $325 million over that period.
Susan Kay Anderson - B. Riley Securities, Inc., Research Division - Analyst
Got it. Thats helpful. And then just the economics of the different sized boxes, I think you said you rightsized them by geographic location. The smaller boxes are the margins the EBITDAS margins are any different? I mean, obviously, the EBITDAS dollar amount is different, but are the margins in any different from the larger boxes? And then maybe if you could also talk about the economics of the international box?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Sure. Im going to Dolf, Im going to throw that your way.
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Great. Yes. So we see the same margins and cash-on-cash returns for our 72 Bay and 102 Bay locations. We have over 10 of the 72 Bays, and the remainder, large. Weve just started building these smaller venues, Augusta and Chattanooga are examples, and theyre off to a good start from a revenue standpoint, and were dialing in the middle of the P&L. And so our model shows that they would have the same returns and the same EBITDAS margins that you would find for the larger venues. So its a little bit early to say on the smallest ones, but were optimistic, and were doing all the things that I think will make us successful. As it relates to the international business, that is a franchise model. And so as we referenced earlier in the presentation, were expecting $1.1 million in royalty revenue from each of the large and mediums on average, the what were seeing from the venues that are franchised internationally. And so the actual unit-level margins are pretty high there because we have it as a royalty stream. And we have some overhead costs that we put against those streams. But over time, theres a tremendous amount of leverage that comes with the franchise model. And we should have nice growth going now with several venues under construction and a great pipeline.
Operator
Our next question will come from Alex Maroccia of Berenberg.
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OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
Alexander Rocco Maroccia - Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG, Research Division - Analyst
As it pertains to the business expansion at Topgolf, can you discuss the real estate strategy for new sites? How you plan your land deals versus competitors? And the time line for that 200 domestic venue mark?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Alex, we wont go into too much detail in terms of how we plan the specific locations and negotiate the real estate deals because its a competitive issue, and we want to maintain our confidentiality on that. I can tell you that one of the reasons that I am so excited about this deal is that, again, in the ringside seat that Ive had in the Board of Directors there for the last 8.5 years, Ive watched them really build muscle and knowledge and expertise on the real estate side. And they just have a wonderful team at this. And its a core competency. Their ability to open venues profitably, to excite consumers consistently and to select those venues is really quite impressive and its something that I and their team have high confidence in. I mean its just almost never misses now. Its a well-oiled machine from that perspective, with a very strong team. And you can on a competitive front, theres nobody else out there. Theres a lot of little ones that have tried to do something, but nobody has scale at the same level of expertise at this the Topgolf does. As a result, when they get into competitive situations, if they get into a competitive situation, Topgolf is by far and away, the preferred outcome for the local community and has the global scale that comes with that.
Dolf or William, anything you want to add to that?
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Chip, I might only add one thing, which is that the projected growth and number of venues that were intending to do in the coming years on a per-year basis is something that we have already done. So we have the operating muscle and knowledge to actually build at the rate that were projecting here. So from my standpoint, not only the quality of the real estate site selection process and, of course, the construction, but also the ability to open and operate effectively without it negatively affecting the remaining base of venues is something that we feel very confident in.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Yes. If you look at just from a math exercise, were talking about 8 venues next year, 10 each year after that. They have 33 venues currently in some stage of development.
Alexander Rocco Maroccia - Joh. Berenberg, Gossler & Co. KG, Research Division - Analyst
Okay. No, thats all helpful. And just a second one, I know its looking out a bit. But when you think this when you think this deal will be accretive to EPS, as you didnt mention any EPS accretion in 22?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Good point, and youre right on that. So with 33 venues in some stage of development plus a nascent Toptracer Range business, Topgolf is very much in a high-growth phase right now. As a result, it wont be EPS accretive for some time, probably not until 2025. But when it becomes accretive, its going to be really, really accretive. And again, were targeting greater than $1 billion of EBITDAS by the end of this decade, with incremental white space on top of that in a highly complementary fit that enhances the competitive advantage of both business. So the story is not around the EPS that will come, its a compelling story, we hope, nevertheless.
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OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
Operator
Our next question will come from George Kelly of ROTH Capital Partners.
George Arthur Kelly - ROTH Capital Partners, LLC, Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst
So I guess, a couple for you. First, just with regards to Topgolfs venue business, curious if you could talk about the competitive dynamics? And just thinking about on the other side of COVID, whenever that is, has there been a lot of closures and sort of whats it look like with competitors? And how has that sort of impacted the dynamics around inbound inquiries for real estate for new development? Are you getting pinged all the time with malls and other developers? Has that changed? Has it increased?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Okay, George, good questions. The first one, when you talk about competitors to Topgolf, Drive Shack would be the only meaningful one that Imaware of. But in general, were not going to talk much about competitors for obvious reasons and out of respect to them. There is nothing anywhere even close to the scale of Topgolf, though, and that is a business that has very, very strong first-mover advantages. In terms of the competitive options for entertainment and activities, et cetera, Dolf, can you elaborate a little bit on that? And then any color you want to provide on interest or inbound?
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Sure. We really find ourselves competing in what we call the attention economy. And so far and away, the biggest competition for us today is movie theaters, dance halls, bowling, any number of other things that people can do when they want to go out and recreate. And so what we try to do is be really thoughtful in terms of our real estate site selection to make sure that were optimally placed in the market to put ourselves in the best possible position that way. And Im sorry, will you remind me of the second part of the question?
George Arthur Kelly - ROTH Capital Partners, LLC, Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst
Yes. Just curious, if youre getting a lot more interest sort of inbound? And are the terms of real estate deals? Is it changing just as a result of COVID?
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
So we absolutely are receiving a huge amount of inbound, particularly now that we have venues of different sizes that we can put in smaller cities. So thats quite aggressive on our end, and so is the inbound inquiries related to international franchise development as people understand were doing it and see some of the success we have, for example, down in the Gold Coast in Australia. So that is a quickening market. And I think that we were just on the lucky side of whats going on in the marketplace, as people seek outdoor opportunity. And in fact, a fair amount of some number of competitors and people in the attention economy have had to close their doors or shrink by virtue of whats going on in their businesses. And so were just on the fortunate side of these trends in terms of our outdoor use.
George Arthur Kelly - ROTH Capital Partners, LLC, Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst
Okay. Great. And then just one quick follow-up, what are the long-term what is the long-term EBITDA margin target for Topgolf?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Were not, George, at this point, providing a long-term EBITDAS margin target, we provided in the presentation quite a bit of detail on some of the specific segments and business units, but not a combined.
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Operator
Our next question will come from Casey Alexander of Compass Point.
Casey Jay Alexander - Compass Point Research & Trading, LLC, Research Division - Senior VP & Research Analyst
Im trying to reconcile a little of the math here. On Slide 12, you say that the target average venue level adjusted EBITDAS is $5 million. And yet in 2019, with EBITDAS of $59 million, thats only a little over $1 million per venue. So Im not sure I understand the conversion there.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Sure. Its $5 million per venue pre-overhead. And then the 2019 is the full enterprise, so it includes corporate and venue level overhead, which is a deduction after the individual venue overheads - individual venue EBITDAS. So does that make sense, Casey?
Casey Jay Alexander - Compass Point Research & Trading, LLC, Research Division - Senior VP & Research Analyst
No.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Okay. So with each venue will contribute $5 million. So if you had 20 of those, that would be $100 million. And then I have to subtract the cost of William, Dolf, all of the people at corporate and any venue overhead in corporate. So if you look at does that make sense now?
Casey Jay Alexander - Compass Point Research & Trading, LLC, Research Division - Senior VP & Research Analyst
It does. It doesnt sound like a real number then, because those are real costs. Let me ask you a different question...
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Were providing all the individual numbers. What were trying to provide you, Casey, was the way that you could look as we add new venues, and you could build models to see how this ramps. But clearly, were...
Casey Jay Alexander - Compass Point Research & Trading, LLC, Research Division - Senior VP & Research Analyst
Yes. Well let me ask you a different question, okay? The enterprise value of this transaction is 42x that 2019 EBITDA number. In your best case or in your scenario that you add $100 million in EBITDA to Topgolf, it still only comes down to 16x in 2022. So Im curious what metric did you use to value this acquisition? I mean I understand all the reasons for doing it, I dont understand the price.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Sure. We used discounted cash flow. We were highly advised by outside investors. We used multiple valuation methodologies, and we are confident that this is going to be a very attractive investment and partnership and merger for all shareholders.
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Operator
Our next question is a follow-up from Brett Andress of KeyBanc Capital.
Brett Richard Andress - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - Associate VP
Just a question on what are the terms of the lockup on the new shares that are being issued to the Topgolf shareholders?
Brian P. Lynch - Callaway Golf Company - Executive VP & CFO
Its a little complicated, because theres different series in the lockup to 10. But for the most part, theres a Series H transfers into common stock, theres no lockup on that. But for the most part, theyll be locked up for at least 6 months, and then there is some coordination provision among the bigger holders for the next 2 years and some limitations on the selling through. It really depends on the series. Its a little complicated, but there are some restrictions.
Brett Richard Andress - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - Associate VP
Okay. Okay. And then the last one here, just so we can start to build out our unit models here, I guess, what units or how many units are slated to open this year? And then how many are slated to open in 21, I guess, just as a starting point?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
This year, because of the COVID impact, if Im not mistaken, Dolf and William, jump in. 5 opened 1 closed?
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
Thats correct.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
And then next year, we are targeting 8.
Dolf Berle - Topgolf International, Inc. - CEO & Director
That is also correct.
Brett Richard Andress - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division - Associate VP
How about 22? Ill try that.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
22 forward is 10 per year.
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OCTOBER 27, 2020 / 9:30PM, ELY.N - Callaway Golf Co Enters Definitive Merger Agreement with Topgolf Entertainment Group Conference Call
Operator
Our next question is a follow-up from John Kernan of Cowen.
John David Kernan - Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division - MD & Senior Research Analyst
I think I got cut off last time. Just when you look at the kind of dream the dream scenario, Chip, of the $1 billion in EBITDAS by fiscal 30, what is the margin structure of the business look like then? It looks like its almost a $9 billion top line pro forma, which is more than triple the business in fiscal 19. Im just curious what type of margin structure youre putting on the business as we get into those kind of pretty far out years?
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
John, I dont have that handy with me. But were obviously providing the estimates of revenue growth and EBITDAS growth. So probably fairly easy to calculate that. And as consistent with what I hope is my track record, the dream the dream seems a little thats not my stuff.
Operator
This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Chip Brewer, CEO of Callaway Golf, for any closing remarks.
Oliver G. Brewer - Callaway Golf Company - President, CEO & Director
Id like to thank everybody for joining us for the call tonight. I know its late in many parts of the country and disrupted your schedule. So thank you so much for fitting us in. This is a really exciting time for Callaway Golf, Topgolf, and candidly, for the sport of golf. Because this is good for all parties here. Its a transformative merger, where both sides have a highly complementary fit and a stronger competitive advantage going forward. For Callaway shareholders, this is going to more than double our growth prospects and strengthen our competitive advantage. Im confident that were going to be able to do some exciting things here and deliver very attractive returns, and I look forward to realizing this potential with you and discussing it further as we move forward. Thank you so much for your time, and look forward to talking you soon as we get into the Q3 results for Callaway in the next week or so.
Operator
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending todays presentation, and you may now disconnect.
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